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We tested the new Asus Zenbook S14 with the Lunar Lake Core Ultra 9 288V processor, and surprisingly, we found that the Core Ultra 9 is slower than the Ultra 7 model in threaded workloads, a condition that Intel says Asus will soon address with a BIOS fix. Our findings are interesting because Intel originally shipped the Asus Zenbook S14 to reviewers for its Lunar Lake launch, but the US press received the model with the lower-tier Core Ultra 7 258V processor, not the flagship Core Ultra 9 288V processor.
We also noticed a new type of behavior with the Ultra 200V series — the Skymont E-cores run at higher frequencies than the Lion Cove P-cores during heavily threaded work, indicating an exceptional amount of performance and efficiency from the new E-cores.
Intel gave us the chance to test the Core Ultra 9-equipped Zenbook S14, which was originally only sent to a few reviewers in Europe because the design is not currently available for purchase in the US. In fact, according to our checks, this is the sole Core Ultra 9-powered notebook available on the market. However, our findings indicate that Intel and Asus still have work to do on the firmware side to deliver the full performance of the Core Ultra 9.
The table above shows the somewhat similar specifications for the two processors. With the same number of cores and the same cache capacities, the only real differences between the two chips boil down to clock speeds and power limits. The Core Ultra 9 has a 300 MHz higher P-core boost clock and 1 GHz higher base (P- and E-cores), with an ever-so-slight 100 MHz bump in GPU frequency. Both chips have a peak turbo power of 37W, but the Ultra 9’s base power (PL1) weighs in at 30W with a 17W minimum, whereas the Core 7 has a 17W base with an 8W minimum.
The Asus Zenbook S14 can be run at different power levels, as listed in the table below, by cycling through different fan settings in the MyAsus application. These settings not only adjust the fan profile but also adjust the configurable TDP. The same power settings apply to both the Ultra 9 and Ultra 7, thus removing TDP limits as a differentiator between the chips in our testing. That means it’s down to the differences in clock speeds to deliver tangible advantages for the Ultra 9, and despite the relatively tame deltas, by no means should the Ultra 9 be slower than the Ultra 7.
You can see our Zenbook S14 review with the Core 7 258V here, and aside from the different chips, our Zenbook sample with the Core Ultra 9 has the same specifications — right down to the cooling subsystem. Naturally, that led us to suspect that cooling could have been the culprit to the unexpectedly low performance, but as we’ll show shortly, that isn’t the case.
As you can see in the album above, we tested both the Core Ultra 7 and 9 in all four modes to measure performance differences across the full TDP range. Performance is generally within our expectations for single-threaded work — the Core 9 beats or matches the Core 7 in most of the single-threaded Cinebench and Geekbench 6 tests, but the Core 9 does trail slightly at the 17W Whisper threshold.
For the Whisper mode, HWiNFO lists the Core Ultra 9’s cTDP setting for PL1 power at 13W, which isn’t in line with the official specs of 17W. However, the Ultra 7 is dialed in at the correct 17W PL1. This would seem to be a minor fix in the BIOS, but larger differences reside in the threaded workloads at all other power levels, and those other power modes are tuned correctly for Ultra 9.
Performance in the threaded workloads stands out as notably inexplicable. The Ultra 7 took the lead across the full range of Cinebench, Geekbench, and Handbrake benchmarks at all power levels. Those deltas persisted despite multiple retests under varying conditions, so we contacted Intel, which confirmed our findings.
The Ultra 7 is only ~2 to 5.3% faster in Cinebench than the Ultra 9, 1.4% faster in Geekbench, and 3.5% faster in HandBrake. Those aren’t huge differences, but logic dictates it should be slower, not faster. Additionally, if thermal limitations hamstring the Ultra 9 (i.e., the cooler wasn’t robust enough), we would expect it to, at a minimum, deliver the same performance as the Ultra 7 because they would both encounter a similar heat limitation. However, that wasn’t the case.
We charted the average effective clock speeds, chip temperature, and power draw during two runs of the Cinebench multi-threaded tests. We plot the P-core clock speeds in blue and the E-core clocks in black, with those values listed on the left-hand chart axis. We also have the power consumption in green and temperature in red, with those values listed on the right-hand chart axis. We recorded these with the processors in ‘Performance’ mode.
We have a chart to cover identical runs for both the Ultra 9 and Ultra 7. We can see that the Ultra 9 peaks at around 80C during the multi-threaded tests, so thermals are not the limiting factor (the chip has a 100C limit).
For both chips, the E-cores run at higher clock speeds than the P-cores during the Multi-threaded Cinebench tests. This is not the case for any of Intel’s previous hybrid x86 processors with both P- and E-cores for either desktop or mobile processors — the P-cores have always run at higher clock speeds during heavily threaded workloads (we’ll demonstrate that with Meteor Lake next).
Intel told us this is a new, intended behavior to extract the best mixture of power efficiency and performance in threaded workloads. That’s obviously now provided by the Skymont E-core architecture (affectionately nicknamed ‘Chad’mont by enthusiasts due to its big generational gains) instead of the Lion Cove P-cores — at least at these power levels. Our laptop reviewer, Andrew Freedman, initially noticed this new behavior, and I intended to create a voltage/frequency curve to highlight the difference in power efficiency. However, since the chip isn’t working correctly, we’ll have to wait for a new BIOS.
Given the chips’ specifications, we expect both the P-cores and E-Cores to run faster for the Ultra 9 288V, yet the Ultra 9’s P-cores run at an average of 3 GHz during the test, the same as the Ultra 7’s. Additionally, the Ultra 7’s E-cores run at an effective 3.5 GHz, 100 MHz faster than the Ultra 9, yet the Ultra 9 pulls more power (22W) on average than the Ultra 7 (19W) during this portion of the test.
For now, Asus customers will have to wait for a fix. Intel provided us with the following statement; “Your results look right for the current BIOS version. We expect Asus to soon release a new BIOS to address small performance inversions seen in some multi-threaded workloads. You may see additional improvements in single-threaded workloads.”
However, Intel hasn’t given us a timeline for the fix, and Asus has yet to respond to our queries.
We ran the same tests on a Meteor Lake Core Ultra 7 155H, also using an Asus Zenbook 14-inch chassis. Here’s an interesting tidbit that isn’t well-known: Meteor Lake has two types of P-cores (more below) and two types of E-cores. This means we had a lot of cores to plot. We plotted the same series of tests but put power and temps on a separate chart to improve readability.
The big takeaway here is that both types of P-cores run at higher frequencies than the E-cores during the multi-threaded Cinebench test, showing that Lunar Lake does, in fact, take a much different approach to delivering power-efficient performance in threaded workloads, an approach enabled by the strength of the Skymont E-core microarchitecture. Meteor Lake, using the same ‘Performance’ fan profile in the MyAsus app, also exhibited much higher average power use in our multi-threaded testing — though it was also faster and has far more total cores.
A bit of background about Meteor Lake’s two types of P-cores: It isn’t uncommon for a few cores to run faster on any given chip, but those cores are typically faster simply by virtue of the silicon lottery — some cores are naturally capable of faster speeds due to the variability of the semiconductor fabrication process, and the faster cores are identified in the binning process and then designated as the ‘favored’ cores.
With Meteor Lake, Intel intentionally designed two cores with faster, leakier transistors and assigned them 8 Vt points (threshold voltage points). The remainder of the cores used slower transistors with less leakage (meaning they are more power efficient) and only have 6 Vt points (the ‘Intel 4‘ process node enabled the extra two Vt points). The additional two voltage thresholds on the faster P-cores enable them to hit higher clock rates, thus creating two cores that are specifically designed to be faster than the other cores despite the use of the same microarchitecture. Intel didn’t publicly announce this design decision, but the company confirmed it with me earlier this year. We’ve listed the cores as High Performance (HP) and Low Performance (LP) P-cores in the above chart.
It is well known that Meteor Lake also has two types of E-cores — the standard E-cores that reside on the CPU tile and two slower Low Performance (LP) E-cores that reside on the SoC tile. Intel intends to use the LP E-cores as much as possible to save power — even to run the entire OS during light workloads like video playback, which enables the chip to shut off the entire CPU tile. However, the lack of an L3 cache forced these cores to frequently access main memory, and lighting up the memory controllers and accessing memory is expensive from a power standpoint, thus offsetting much of the power efficiency gained from using the LP E-cores.
To fix this, Intel added a Memory Side Cache to Lunar Lake, but this is really just analogous to the System Level Cache (SLC) found on Arm chips. In either case, the ‘Memory Side Cache’ approach is much more effective.
Conclusion
Intel’s Lunar Lake represents a dramatic step forward on several fronts, especially in power efficiency and battery life, but we aren’t able to provide the deep-dive details on many of the architectural aspects of the Core Ultra 9 yet because we’re testing with a problematic BIOS. We’ll post more benchmarks when we get a new working BIOS. Naturally, we’ll also retest the Core Ultra 7 chips with the new BIOS to make sure there aren’t any regressions with those chips.
Neither Intel nor Asus have given us a timeline for the new BIOS update. Given that there is an apparent lack of Ultra 9 models at retail in the US, it’s logical to think we’ll see more Ultra 9 laptops available in the same timeframe as the updated BIOS.
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